Sunday, March 18, 2007

Beth Ditto vs. Topshop

Sara at Dressr Blog draws TFFF's attention to the latest high street hypocrisy. UK uber-chain Topshop approached The Gossip to do a series of in-store gigs, presumably to capitalise on singer Beth Ditto's current status as It chick: ever since music mag NME voted Ditto the coolest person in rock, she's been the go-to gal for a dose of insta-cool.

The idea, as with most Topshop non-fashion collaborations, would presumably have seen posters and images of Beth Ditto scattered around the London flagship store, lending a little punk cool cachet to the increasingly mainstream store.



The move has backfired, with Ditto pointing out the hypocrisy of Topshop wanting to capitalise on The Gossip's cool factor...without expanding their brand to provide clothes that the singer could ever wear. Since the chain is not averse to design collaborations with non-designers - hello, Kate Moss! - there's no reason the store could not have asked for a Gossip gig or two together with a design collaboration or consultation on a plus-size line.

Ditto's response:

Give me the job. I want to design, I want you to make clothes for big girls, big boys, I want you to make big sizes. I don't want just your money or the cred of hanging out with Kate Moss, which is fine, but it's not want I want in life. I want more. I want what she gets.

I don't think it's fair to put my face somewhere where they would never let me in there to wear their clothes. If they want our music they've got to actually do something to earn it. I can get money anywhere, I don't need your money unless you're going to do it my way.

They don't want to dress people that look like me, that have a normal body, a bigger body, whatever. I mean I don't really know why they want The Gossip to do things for them, I don't understand because if they saw me in the street they'd never give me the time of day.


One of the major reasons Beth Ditto has been so hailed as "cool" (whatever THAT means) has been her non-conformity: much of her press cites her weight and size, focussing on her success and sexiness as a fat girl. That Topshop wanted to purchase some positive PR without taking the whole package -- 'hey, we'll have the music, the fans with purchasing power, the face and name...but, wait? Provide clothes bigger than a size 16? Ew.' -- is both hilarious and tragic. Hilarious that Philip Green thought he could get away with it and Ditto would sign up, tragic that he thought he could get away with it...and you know he's not going to be introducing a plus-size line any time soon.

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In response to comments about my Giles Deacon for New Look piece, I'm happy to issue a correction: New Look do have a plus-size line, Inspire, in UK sizes 16-26. I still stand by my main point, that special collaborations like the Gold by Giles line, should be available in plus sizes too, in keeping with the concept of increasing accessibility to designer pieces.

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In other random news: food products are soon set to carry their carbon footprint on packaging. A packet of crisps will show a 75g carbon stamp, indicating the total carbon footprint from every level of production. Great news in the food industry: onw what about fashion? I can't wait for the day this is extended to the clothing and accessories industry.

Cotton is one of the biggest producers of carbon, and with clothes often manufactured in several different countries - a label here, a button there, a pattern cut here and flown elsewhere to be finished, before flown to yet another country to be sold - fashion is one of the most important industries in environmental terms. Whilst we're campaigning for more ethical values viz. sizing in the industry, let's extend those ethics to all areas. Being able to buy a size 22 in Topshop would be great - even greater if it carried its carbon footprint (and even better if that footprint was as low as possible).

10 comments:

Holliday said...

Reason #512 why I love Beth Ditto!

I like my fashion with a dash of politics.

Ultra said...

Your points about the carbon footprint of fashion are spot on. In addition to the actual manufacturing processes that involve carbon, it's a good thing that the Concorde is no longer is service, allowing the fashionistas to take it sometimes twice in a day (espec models)! Let's all be more accountable in our fashion choices until they get with the program!

Ostentatious Style said...

Great post! Go Beth!

Leah said...

I'm not a fan of the Gossip, but Beth has definately got it right! So many places are hypocritical, it's riduculous. Excellent post.

Rowena said...

Nice one Beth Ditto and nice one toofatforfashion. Topshop have recently started stocking 'happy loves it', a brand who refuse to make anything other than size 10-12. Apparently 'happy' does not love anyone over a size 12.

Anonymous said...

I read a Lilly Allen interview in BUST and she said that NME was going to have her, Beth Ditto and five other women on the cover because they were all on the "cool list" but at the last minute they put a photo of Muse on the cover because they didn't think a fat lesbian from America would sell any copies!! totally messed up! I love the Gossip and Beth Ditto's plus sized and punk rock attitude!

Ryan said...

I mean, yeah, what 5:58 mentioned is unfortunate. but honestly, that's marketing. until the majority of the public is genuinely and openly okay with both heavy women and queer persons, beth ditto will never be cover material - it's a numbers game.
as for the availability of sizes, as someone who sews, and is on a different place in the size spectrum (try finding a size 6 that doesn't look utterly ridiculous on anyone under 5'4. i swear, they think all tiny women are amazons) i've come to realize that it's not a matter of getting the same fashions made in a bigger or smaller size. a lot of these dresses, no matter how large they are made, would look horrendous on a size 22. They're just cut entirely wrong. so while it was rather despicable what topshop was attempting with beth ditto, getting them to make the same clothes bigger doesn't help matters. instead of fashionably dressed larger women, you get larger women whose clothes make them look unwieldy and uncomfortable. instead, alternative lines by the same designers should be considered - especially here in America where there are so many people with weight issues.

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Victoria said...

I agree that TopShop shoould make sizes bigger than 16. However, Philip Green also owns Evans and Dorothy Perkins, the former a plus size shop and Dorothy Perkins selling plus sizes (albeit only to 22).

You could cut him a little slack.

Victoria said...

Oh, and wouldn't you know - Beth Ditto has just brought out her own line in Evans;)